Active Rain September 10, 2011

The New York Real Estate Contract Contrast

Roller Coaster at Rye PlaylandFrom 1996 through 2000, I sold real estate in Rochester, New York. I learned the business in a way very similar to the way real estate deals are put together in most other parts of the country. Here’s the typical chronology:

  1. The buyer makes an offer in writing on a boiler plate form jointly approved by the local Bar Association and the Association of REALTORS. When countersigned by the seller, that offer then becomes the purchase and sale contract. 
  2. The contract is contingent on attorney approval, home inspection, and mortgage within specified time frames. 
  3. Once the attorneys approve the contract and inspection issues are settled, the remaining contingency is the buyer’s mortgage. 
Simple enough, right? 
 
In Westchester and the surrounding areas (Boroughs of New York City, Manhattan, Long Island, Hudson Valley) it is not that way. 
 
Here is a typical chronology:
  1. Buyer makes an offer that, when accepted, is simply deemed an accepted offer. Nothing other than the terms of the offer are in writing. 
     
  2. A memorandum of agreement (often called a “deal sheet” in NYC) is sent out to all parties, typically by the listing broker, with the terms spelled out. 

    The status at this point is often “accepted offer, continue to show for backup.”
     

  3. The buyer must complete their home inspection prior to the seller’s attorney sending out contracts to the buyers attorney. This is where we play the theme to Jeopardy while the attorney for buyer and seller trade pet riders and jabber about discuss language. There is no universal contract. Riders can be 5 pages and have all kinds of clauses and revisions echoing that attorney’s past trauma. It gets really fun when the attorneys don’t pick up the phone to work things out and opt to fax marked up contracts back and forth for weeks. 

    While this occurs, the official status is “accepted offer, contracts are out.” The seller can elect to continue to show for backup or not. I have seen contracts be “out” for a month. 
     

  4. Assuming all inspection issues are settled and the lawyers agree to verbiage (this can take a week or more), the buyers meet with their attorney to go over the contract and make their signatures and down payment.  
     
  5. Once the buyer’s downpayment and signed contract are sent back to the seller’s attorney, the seller counter signs and their attorney deposits the down payment into their escrow account. Until this is completed, anything can happen. Another buyer can appear, the buyer can propose changes to the contract before signing, you name it. 
     
  6. Only after 1-5 occur is the home considered under contract, and the only remaining cointingency is the buyer’s mortgage.  Some attorneys will stop the process and insist that the septic, submerged oil tank, or other variable be tested before contracts are delivered. They want the contract to have no contingencies or “clean.”
Some areas, like Fairfield County and the outskirts of the Hudson Valley have a “binder” in place of the memo, where the buyer deposits a small fee (perhaps $500) with their broker. We don’t do that in Westchester. 
 
Ask a local attorney why they insist on doing it this way and they’ll tell you it is to protect the client and ensure the transaction goes well.  No kidding. 
 
This is a unique market, and agents have to be really, really good at managing the process or their clients suffer loss. Communication with the other side, settling issues, trouble shooting and working with the lawyers is crucial. It is also why using an attorney not well versed in local real estate is huge trouble for a transaction. 

 

 
Active Rain September 10, 2011

Keep Your Word or Lose the Deal

Sold by J Philip Real EstateBidding wars are relatively rare in Westchester County except in those cases where the house is very special. Multiple offers are not uncommon, but having more than one offer does not mean the price necessarily gets bid up. Sometimes, when  we ask buyers for their best and highest, it can backfire and the competing offer walks, not desiring to go higher in price when there are so many other options out there. Sometimes, a buyer will get caught in the heat of competition and make an offer far higher than they are truly comfortable with. They later get buyer’s remorse, and that’s when things get messy. 

So here’s one of the difficult things some people are pulling in New York real estate transactions, in large part because we don’t go under contract right away
 
We recently had an accepted offer on one of my listings and contracts were sent out. Then, in the 11th hour, another offer came in considerably higher. All cash, and it blew us away. I gave the first offer a chance to match, and they couldn’t. I have to act in the best interests of my client, the seller’s attorney concurred with the seller, and we switched to the higher offer. Inspections were done, and contracts went out to the new buyer. 
 
That was 2 weeks ago. No signed contracts were sent back. No deposit. When I asked our attorney what the delay was, she told me that the buyers were trying to change a term on the contract that I specifically told their agent was not negotiable. Two weeks later our backup offer could have been long gone had I not remained in touch with them. Whether the new folks did this maliciously or not is secondary- good faith is good faith, and if a term has to be changed, it jeopardizes the deal. I have a seller to protect. 
 
So here’s the thing to watch out for: In a multiple bid situation, a high bidder gets caught in the competition and “wins” the acceptance of the seller to proceed with contracts. Then, they delay. Inspections take longer. Issues arise. Timelines get pushed back. Eventually, the back up bids go elsewhere, and when the winning bid knows they no longer have competition, they go back on their word on price or terms (sometimes both). Without the leverage of  another offer, the seller sometimes settles for less or worse. I see it too often, and it is not a good thing. 
 
The takeaway for my colleagues is that you keep the lines of communication open with backup offers until contracts are signed (or longer). 
 
For  consumers, they should kow that when you are the winner in a multiple bid situation and then you delay or obstruct longer than normal, you risk losing the deal. 
 
Good faith is good faith. A deal is a deal. We may take longer to put everything in writing in Westchester and the surrounding areas, but if you say one thing and do another, you risk losing the house. 
Active Rain September 9, 2011

Maybe We’d Consider Your Contingent Offer if it Weren’t so Crappy

BehaveUpon occasion, we recieve a “contingent” offer on a listing. Most offers have contingencies, such as mortgage and inspection. But in Westchester and New York, a “contingent offer” is one where the buyer still needs to sell their own house (in nearby Fairfield County, CT it is known as a “Hubbard Clause”). Most of the time, our client wants nothing to do with waiting for another home to sell in order for them to sell their own. But what really makes the arrangement untenable is when the rest of the terms of the offer give us no reason to even consider the deal, even if the buyer’s home is quite salable. 

When negotiating, win/win works best. If something about your offer is less attractive, you have to compensate somehow by adding something that is attractive. In other words, if you want the seller to take their home off the market (and wait for your home to sell risking that it won’t and they’ll lose 60-90 days on market), you can’t expect them to embrace a low number. What’s in it for them? Why wouldn’t they just keep their home on the market and wait for a higher offer? 

Price and terms. Price and terms. Those are the magic words. Not just price, not just terms. They go hand in hand. Cash buyers know this, and that is why they leverage their strong terms with a lower price so often. They have leverage. On the other hand, if you are making a contingent offer, you have no leverage. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Moreover, you are asking the seller for a huge favor, which is to share your own risk that your house might not sell. And yet we get some people who still make a low offer! Why would a seller do this? 

If a buyer truly believes that they can sell their own home and want to make a contingent offer to buy, they need to understand that their offer must be strong- very strong- to compensate for their contingency. It’s only logical. If you are going to make a contingent offer, and you want to be taken seriously, don’t lowball. A strong contingent offer just might be considered. And if you are making an offer on the home where you’ll want your loved ones to live, don’t you want your offer seriously considered?  

Active Rain September 7, 2011

The “Other” Shadow Inventory

The real estate world is upside downA recent post by Donna Harris got me to take this thought out of mothballs and share my view on a phenomenon I am witnessing out there in the market. We’ve heard of a “shadow inventory” of foreclosed homes that aren’t yet on the market. They are there, but they aren’t potential business until they get listed. 

Well, I think there is another “shadow inventory,” and it is on the side of the buyers. I’ll explain. As a listing agent, I monitor the number of showings each of my listings get. Some have has 20, 30 or even 40 showings and haven’t sold yet. So what did the 30 people who walked through end up buying? 

In most cases, nothing. There weren’t 30 other sales in that locale or price category. 25 of those 30 parties who walked through never bought anything. If they did, the market would have taken off. It didn’t. I would opine that more than half of the people out there looking won’t buy now or in the foreseeable future for a variety of reasons. 

  • They still have to sell their current home.
  • They haven’t been to the bank yet & won’t get approved.
  • They are nervous about committing to a purchase in this environment.
  • Their “plan,” such as an inheritance or parental gift won’t pan out. 
  • They like to look at houses.

Many of the agents working with these people are so desperate for business that they feel that working with a warm body beats sitting at home. And they hope that the buyer will find something so spectacular and wonderful that they’ll finally commit, go to the bank, or get off their rear end and buy. But they seldom do. Like the shadow inventory of homes, these people are “there,” but they aren’t business. They are busy work. 

In the meantime, we’ll still have 10, 20, and 30 showings that don’t buy- this house, or any house, while the agents accompanying those people spin their wheels and hope for a miracle. It isn’t a good business plan, but it is a reality. 

 

 

Active Rain September 6, 2011

Um, the Answer Would be “No.”

Last week I wrote a blog post asking if the local media and politicians overdid the warnings about Tropical Storm Irene. My concern was that, in light of the area being relatively spared, future warnings might not be taken as seriously. It turns out that the answer to my question would be “no,” as in they didn’t overdo it. Much as I disliked the schoolgirl-like giddiness of some of the weather reporters (which is a trend that will probably never go away), the aftermath of the storm has revealed enormous damage right here in our own back yard. 

  • President Obama was just in Paterson, New Jersey, less than an hour from me, because the flooding was so severe. 
  • Power outages in Westchester were significant, and some were without electricity for days. 
  • Westchester also had plenty of flooding, including a a home that is under contract with some clients of ours. The basement was so flooded that the laundry appliances were floating. 
  • The flooding wasn’t just in basements. Last Sunday I published photos of standing water in Thornwood, NY which turned a main road into a lake, and a garage that was almost washed away by a brook that overflowed. 
  • Tannersville, New York in the nearby Catskills had its downtown literally washed out. The main street was a river. 
And right down the street from my own office, the subterranean erosion was so massive that a portion of North State Road collapsed. It is just a big hole. Worse, the area of the sinkhole housed utility infrastructure that will be no picnic to repair. Estimates are that it will take 2 months and almost $400,000 to fix and restore the road. This is a well traveled road that crosses the 9A expressway, and the disruption will be as significant as the cost. 
 
So, to answer my own question, NO. It wasn’t overdone, even in an area that was largely spared the massive damage we saw elsewhere. And I do believe that people will listen next time, or pay heavy consequences, especially if we aren’t as fortunate as we were this time around. 
 
Irene Damage in Briarcliff at North State Road.
 
Irene Damage in Briarcliff at North State Road.
 
Irene Damage in Briarcliff at North State Road.
 
Active Rain September 6, 2011

Reminder: Active Rain Westchester Meetup Tonight! Sept. 6, 7pm White Plains

Our Westchester Active Rain meetup is tonight at 7pm at the Brazen Fox in White Plains NY. All are welcome! 

The address is 175 Mamaroneck Avenue, White Plains, NY 10601. Parking is best behind the building in the municipal lot on the corner of Maple and Waller. Brazen Fox does have a rear entrance from the lot. They use a muni meter, in case you are keeping score. 

I have about 8 confirmations so it should be a fun time, and it will be nice to meet in person and break bread as we gear up toward autumn. 

Feel free to ask questions in the comments or email me at jphilip@jphilip.com. If you want, give me a call on my mobile, 914-450-8883. 

Brazen Fox rear entrance

Active Rain September 6, 2011

An End of Summer Thought

As I enter my 45th autumn, I sometimes ponder what life has taught me through this journey. I bite my tongue more than I did 20 years ago when tempted to make a wisecrack. I ask myself what my father would do more often. And, with fatherhood, I thank God for the safe return of my children from school and camp every day. 

I recall hating to be behind a school bus in the morning. It slowed me down, got in my way, and caused me to be late. It was a nuisance. But now that I put my 4 children on school bus, I am far more patient. And if I am late, it is my fault for not planning better. But years ago, while I’d never pass a bus or do anything stupid around one, I did impatiently pump the gas once the bus turned away. And thankfully, I never hurt myself or another in my immaturity. 

So now that I am a dad, I have a request for everyone out there with the start of school arriving in our area this week. School is open. Please please please drive carefully. Those are my babies on those buses, and I want them home safe tomorrow and every day afterward. If you have kids, you know what I mean. If you don’t, please trust me on this one. Children get on and off buses, cross the street, and assume they’ll live forever. They trust that cars see them. They are wrong. But don’t let them pay for that mistake with their life- be alert enough for both yourself and them. Please be careful. Please be patient. 

Again, please drive safely, very safely, because nobody I know has a child to spare. We need them all. 

Catherine starts 2nd grade Wednesday

Active Rain September 6, 2011

Cold Spring & Philipstown New York Market Snapshot

4 bedroom Ranch outside Cold Spring, town of PhilipstownAnyone who knows me knows that I love the Hudson River towns, and not just the ones in Westchester. Nyack in Rockland is near and dear to my heart, and so is Cold Spring, a hop skip and a jump away in Putnam County, NY directly across the Hudson from West Point. 

The area is very popular with weekenders from Manhattan, and aside from the village of Cold Spring, which has one of the most charming downtowns you’ll ever see, there is also the village of Nelsonville, and the larger areas  outside the villages in the town of Philipstown. All share the Cold Spring post office, and all are served by the Haldane school distict. There is something here for everyone here from historic, quaint village living, to bucolic acreage with privacy and majesty up the mountainside. 

The market here is more like Westchester than Putnam or nearby Dutchess county. In the 90 days spanning June through August, the area had 10 closed single family home sales at a median sale price of $407,500, which is almost $100,000 higher than the $315,000 median price in the rest of Putnam. In the same period last year when the stimulus was still skewing price and volume upward, 10 homes sold at a median price of $481,000. This is a significant drop in median price, but 2010 was affected by the $8,000 tax credit. There are two homes under contract at a median price of $457,500. 65 homes are on the market at a median list price of $499,900. 

The high inventory points to now being an exceptional time to be a buyer in the Cold Spring area. There is some real opportunity here. We currently have a beautiful listing in the town outside the village on 8 acres with a pond for $549,900. It is an all-brick, 2400 square foot 4 bedroom 2.5 bath ranch with a 2-car garage and 2 patios. That is an incredible value for a locale that is just over an hour from New York City on the Hudson Line. The area is one of the little jewels that deserves far more attention. 

If you’d like more information on the property, call or email me. If you’d like to search for Cold Spring area homes like an agent, get yourself a free Listingbook account

Covered Bridge in Philipstown, NY

View of Hudson from village of Cold Spring, NY

Active Rain September 5, 2011

Ossining Real Estate Market, August 2011

Owner financing available on this 250,000 Handyman in OssiningThis is the market report for Ossining, NY for August 2011. It covers single family homes in the Ossining School District. All data is from the Empire Acess MLS. 

In August 2011, Ossining had 15 closings at a median sale price of $420,000.

In August 2010, Ossining had 15 closings at a median sale price of $436,000.

Both volume and price are holding steady, and this is a fairly siginificant departure from the downward trend of previous periods this year. August of 2010 was in the the stimulus period, so the results this August, which are unaffected by any outside forces or inducements, are organic and describe some strength. That is good news for sellers, finally. 

Currently, there are 33 homes under contract at a median asking price of $409,222. This shows that pending prices are are also strong, and we should expect volume to remain steady as the autumn approaches.  

There are 132 active listings at a median asking price of $424,611. We are actually down to under a year’s worth of inventory at this rate, and while buyers do have lots of choices, sellers have gained some ground. It remains a buyer’s market, but not as severe as it was earlier this year.

Since inventory is down & prices and volume are stronger it suggests that we may have turned the corner. 

Previous posts on Ossining are here. 

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Active Rain September 4, 2011

Another Fine Banking Representative

PugI got a call today regarding one of my listings from the lender on the property. The person was in the collections department, and it was one of those calls lenders sometimes make on a distress property. However, I think somewhere someone lost the memo that common sense would be a good idea, as I journeyed into bizarro bank land with this rube. 

After informing me that this was an attempt to collect and debt and all information collected would be used for that purpose, I reminded her that I was the broker, not the debtor. She was undeterred. She then asked me what the address was of the property, and I told her she gave me the address when I first answered the phone.  She was clearly following a script. She asked me to fax the listing agreement, which was hilarious- it had been faxed so many times I had them on speed dial. When I asked to whose attention it should be faxed, she said just fax it, it will get here. That went back and forth a few times too, but I finally got from her that the account number would go on the cover letter. Again. 

Then we really went into orbit. She wasked me at what number I could be reached. I reminded her that she had just called me. She again asked for the number. I said “the number you just called.” No, she needed a number. 

We went around in circles, on half a dozen other details that were either self evident or information already volunteered by this person. What made it so peculiar was the arrogant attitude. SHE was the bank. SHE was the boss. This is a switchboard grunt, clearly, a low level collector at best, and not a negotiator. 

This is the caliber of person dealing with the public at the big box bank. If she worked at a restaurant or office she’d have been sacked her first day if she conducted herself like this. Anywhere else (like for example, J. Philip Real Estate), such obtuse, arrogant robotic ineptitude would never be tolerated. We have MBAs out of work while this one collects a check for…what?  Something is wrong with this picture. Is it too much to ask that the people reaching out to the public from the banks at least know how to deal with the public?