
Sheer Stupidity
Dear <agent>

How Long Will the Decline Last?
An appraiser in nearby Rockland County has done an analysis on the price changes to a typical raised ranch in his town from 1965-2008. You can see the results here on the board’s online newsletter. Once you hit the link, scroll down to page 5. The results are very instructive. In the last bust (1987 correction, Savings & Loan crisis, stock market crash of 1987, early 90’s recession), it took until 1998 for prices to get back to the prior peak of 1986. Prices declined for 5 years, then rose nil to very little for another 6 years.
This Great Correction is a doozy compared to those times. The drop of prices from 2007-2008 of 11% is historically unprecedented, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see another decade of malaise. It is irresponsible to believe that things will be better in 18 months; we still have billions if not trillions of bad debt to wring out of this economy. New York Home sellers need to understand that they are competing with short sales, bank-owned foreclosures and other distressed situations and that their best chance of selling is to price their home as competitively and aggressively as possible.
Priming the Pump
I saw today that a listing that expired and did not renew with me has re-listed with another broker for $50,000 less. Now, as a guy who specializes in expired listings, I have to admit that I usually am on the other side of this; by the time people get me as their agent, they are, shall we say, educated. This particular seller was a tough case. A contractor, he bought the house at the height of the market, made improvements and wanted every cent back + $100,000 in under 4 years of owning the place.
The home was just across a county line, so their post office and school district were in different counties, making the home very difficult to be “found.” Worse, they were incredibly un-savvy when it came to the Internet and appreciating my marketing. What made this a bigger issue was their dippy daughter who (no kidding) would put their address in the URL window of Internet explorer and flame me for not being what appeared on the screen afterward. When I brought them to my office and explained how people search for homes online, they were skeptical- who wants to go through all those steps? My answer: over 80% of home buyers and growing.
Why did I take an overpriced listing to begin with? 2 reasons: first, I didn’t promise them their price. I agreed to start out at their number with the proviso that we’d adjust as the market indicated. On this, they reneged. I also bet that their desire to be close to their grandchildren would overtake their desire for an unrealistic profit. I lost that gamble too.
SO…when they told me that they were giving up on selling and choosing to remain in the home, I took them at their word. Not so. I primed the pump for another agent. I did a good job- they whacked the price 50 grand, probably because they want to live closer to those grandkids.
That’s baseball!
Lose Your License Over One Commission
I won’t say when or where this happened; suffice to say somewhere in New York. A buyer contacted me to show what appeared to be a short sale listing that had already been approved. The approval was for a previous buyer that walked away from the deal, so the window of time was narrow. It was a vacant condominium, and we saw it on a weeknight. We took a 2nd look that weekend, and it was there that the listing agent informed me that the “nuance” of the deal was that the “approved” price was actually $20,000 lower than the MLS list price.
Where was the other $20,000 going? The seller. The seller wanted to be greased $20,000 to sell his pre-foreclosure in a short sale. I have been involved with short sales where the seller has been forced to sell appliances and furniture just to raise the money to move. In some cases, the buyer of the home bought the chattle, and that was legitimate- nothing precludes people from selling their belongings. There wasn’t anything in the apartment to buy to give the money a justification. Nothing. Not even a folding chair.
Aside from the obvious bank fraud I was confronted with, what was particularly disturbing was the brazen stupidity of the listing agent, who so unapologetically continued to lobby for the side deal. He didn’t know me from Adam; I could have been a mole for the Department of State for all he knew.
I advised my buyer client to stay away. I have 4 children to feed and a company to run. I am not going to lose my livelihood over a brokerage fee. I’m not morally superior. I’m just not stupid.
Just When I Was Starting to Like Zillow…
Zillow used to be on my last nerve. It seemed that no matter how compelling my rationale was for pricing, a seller would claim that Zillow had their house at $50,000 higher or a buyer would lament that the value of the home they were buying was $50,000 lower. It was maddening. Zillow seemed arrogantly unapologetic about the dreaded “zestimate,” which no doubt killed more than it’s share of deals.
However, over time, Zillow seemed to become more agent-friendly. Their responses on blogs like Sellsius seemed to be less defiant. They syndicated listings. They created profiles for agents, and indexed us by locale and even specialties. Moreover, they have become far more transparent in the accuracy of their property value estimates.
Good stuff, huh? I even posted a link to my Zillow profile in my Sidebar.
Then, things started to creep away from the warm fuzzies again. An Inman News article expressed dismay that aggregates like Zillow and Trulia hijacked the SEO of individual brokers. Not the end of the world, but food for thought. Or so I thought.
This past week, I got a call from Amanda at Zillow. This wasn’t your garden variety solicitation for a banner ad. The upshot is that they want to position agent ads so that people searching for properties will call the agent who bought the zip code and not the listing agent. The extortion selling point was that I should buy my zip code before someone else does.
How galling. No content from agents like me, and Zillow is out of business. Why do I have to buy the privilege of getting the call on my own listing? It is MY content! I already paid for the right to market it with my blood sweat and tears.
I’m not so jazzed about syndicating my listings to Zillow anymore. I am all for Zillow making money, but not by sandbagging me or hijacking my listings. They can do whatever they wish; So can I. I’ll consider unchecking them in my syndication options.
Memorial Day Weekend: Thomas Faranda
No, not my brother Tom Faranda, but the Tom Faranda he was named after.
Whatever you are doing right now, you are doing it free from fear and confident in your future. You have much to look forward to. And for that, you owe a debt of gratitude to a US soldier.
Tom Faranda was my father’s cousin, who was part of the invasion of Normandy in 1944. He perished in the assault of the beach, and his remains were never found. He was in an amphibious tank which was hit and never made land (I asked my brother if there is a remote chance that he somehow crawled to shore and was nursed to health by some Mademoiselle and lived out his days with a beret sipping wine, to which my brother responded “on Omaha Beach?”). My brother Tom found out what division he was in once, and maybe he’ll post that. But the first Tom Faranda gave his life in the liberation of France and the defeat of the Nazis. He died for his country and the liberty of man.
Tom Faranda. Now you know his name.
Are You Related to the Palm Beach Withhelds?
Withheld.
This is what sometimes appears as the name when sellers of a home instruct their agent that they wish to remain anonymous. I can understand the sentiment, but in this age of information, home owners should think long and hard before engaging in this practice. Other markets outside of New York may be different, but here in Westchester County and the surrounding areas the connotation of “Withheld” may be counterproductive.
Over the years, homes sold by a withheld owner were often under distress. REO brokers often use this, and traditionally homes marketed as pre foreclosures would withhold the owner name to help them avoid embarrassment. That worked far better in 1997 than 2009 for reasons related to technology. Unlike 1997, public records with the owner of record’s name are a click away, rendering privacy a moot point.
Other reasons for wanting to have the seller name withheld has been privacy concerns. This is the predominant reason why a non-distressed seller would not disclose their name. However, it backfires all too often.
Privacy should not trump the suggestion of distress. If a listing unintentionally hints a distress sale, the seller’s posture is more vulnerable- that can cost them serious money when an offer arrives. And once a buyer believes the seller is in a bind, no amount of denying it will completely eradicate doubt in the buyer’s mind.
There have been times that it helps to know the name of the owner of a sold home when advising clients in pricing their home, and if “Withheld” supplants a last name when trying to ascertain the exact identity of a recent nearby sale, the practice becomes a counterproductive nuisance.
I think that in most cases people who withhold their name are doing more harm than good. I recall selling a listing right next door to Supermodel Heidi Klum’s home, which was also for sale. Now, if anyone would want to withhold their name, it would be a supermodel. Ms. Klum’s listing disclosed a corporate owner. She had her anonymity without the “Withheld” moniker.
Congratulations! You Just Bought Your House Back!
The fact pattern:
- Total time on market: 18 Months. Time with my company: 120 days
- Original Price with prior broker: $629,000
- Original means of pricing home: oldest son’s date of birth (6/29)
- Current price: $489,000
- Number of offers before yesterday: 0
- Current offer: $420,000
- Number of competing home for sale: 40
- Number of comparable sales: 4
- CMA value: $440,000
- Counter offer to yesterday’s offer: $465,000.

How NOT to Make an Offer on an REO
I have blogged previously on things a buyer should know before they buy a bank-owned foreclosure. Home values in Westchester have come down quite a bit since the “Great Correction,” which has brought out many people who wouldn’t have been candidates for ownership when prices in New York were unsustainably high. Foreclosures contribute to that pricing change very impactfully. Since a number of buyers I am now working with are seeking to buy an REO in earnest (and who can blame them? “Affordable home” and “Westchester County” are seldom uttered in the same sentence), I have a few observations.
- Lowball offers won’t work with aggressively priced REOs. It wasn’t long ago that you couldn’t find a decent house in Yonkers for under $400,000. Then, the line was lowered to $300,000. We now have bank-owned foreclosures priced in the $80,000-$130,000 range. The interest level in these properties is enormous, as those prices are less than that of a vacant lot. Making a $100,000 offer on a $125,000 listing which whill probably end up selling for $140,000 in a bidding war is a big waste of your time and your agent’s time. One buyer I worked with in the last 2 weeks realized this on her own; her agent was appreciative.
- Pre-approvals aren’t optional. Once a house is on the market, the asset manager at the bank wants it gone yesterday. They won’t tie up the house under contract with a an unqualified buyer who can’t close. The people at the bank don’t know you; the only way they’ll have any assurance that you’ll perform is a pre approval. They simply won’t take an offer without a preapproval seriously, and many REO brokers cannot even upload the offer to the bank without one.
- The lawyer you get for free through your job or union probably isn’t the best one to use. I think it is great that your union or employer will help you set up your will and a number of other low-impact legal services for no or low cost. However, a real estate transaction, especially the purchase of an REO, is a high-impact legal service that requires proactive advocacy. Your job-related attorney isn’t set up for that. Let me make myself perfectly clear: If you are going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, why would you scrimp $1000 on the attorney? If you use an attorney that won’t return calls until Friday (or at all), and other acts of indifference, it will sabotage the transaction. You need a lawyer versed in foreclosures the same way you need a dentist for your teeth. They are specialists.
- The bank will not consider a contingent offer. The bank will not consider a contingent offer. A mortgage contingency is OK; selling the home you currently own isn’t. Sell your current home or rent it, but you can’t make that a contingency of the purchase. There are no exceptions. None. Ever.
- “As is” means “as is.” Other than egregious environmental problems like a bad oil tank, you can’t get anything fixed.
- 203(k) loans don’t happen overnight. 203k and other rehabilitation loans for buying a home in need of rehabilitation are great, but they require enormous red tape and paperwork. They take longer. Take nothing for granted. If the loan officer wants something, get it to him or her immediately. If you go past deadlines, you may not get an extension and you may lose your deposit.
People that want to buy a foreclosure often want a bargain but too often don’t understand that what they save in price is paid for in other ways by bureaucracy, bank regulations, and other forms of red tape. Banks are not typical sellers. They are enormous monolithic institutions that don’t make exceptions for circumstantial requests. Understanding this will help you going in to avoid additional stress. Forewarned is forearmed!